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Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:24 pm**

The failed design of the tiger which gave us the Ferdinand, and elefant

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:01 pm**

Maybe we can include it has a worse version of the tiger 1 but cheaper.

Posted: **Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:38 pm**

It was more expensive I think and was slower because it had 200mm of armor in the front. I'll fact check.

Posted: **Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:31 pm**

So yeah I was correct it should be as strong as the Ferdinand armor wise and as slow as the tiger two with the damage of a tiger one

Posted: **Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:06 pm**

Kaboom

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Posted: **Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:18 am**

It is quite too side view, please include the upper parts of the tank to be more visible. Thanks!

Posted: **Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:30 am**

I'll try i didn't even notice

Posted: **Fri Dec 25, 2020 3:35 am**

ZakTheBuilder1 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:30 am I'll try i didn't even notice

Make it more wider or make it more 3d

Add more details and fix the shadows pls.

Posted: **Fri Dec 25, 2020 3:57 am**

What bout dis

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Posted: **Fri Dec 25, 2020 3:59 am**

Oh shadows

Posted: **Fri Dec 25, 2020 4:38 am**

K bout dis

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Posted: **Fri Dec 25, 2020 8:43 am**

You're improving definitely but if you want, you can use this as reference to make it more close as what's ingame

I do think that your work's ok.

Posted: **Fri Dec 25, 2020 9:00 am**

***off topic*** You're definitely improving. Anyway here's the Sherman img you requested. I wish you luck man

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Posted: **Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:48 pm**

Now that I c the tiger with mine all that I need to change is the brightness.

Posted: **Fri Dec 25, 2020 8:02 pm**

0.2

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Posted: **Fri Dec 25, 2020 8:03 pm**

ZakTheBuilder1 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 8:02 pm 0.2
TigerPorsche0.1.png

Forgot the team colour

Posted: **Fri Dec 25, 2020 8:15 pm**

Ooooffff

Posted: **Fri Dec 25, 2020 8:30 pm**

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Posted: **Fri Dec 25, 2020 10:43 pm**

ZakTheBuilder1 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 8:30 pm TigerPorsche0.3.png

Looks really good.

Posted: **Tue Dec 29, 2020 2:13 pm**

ZakTheBuilder1 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:38 pm It was more expensive I think and was slower because it had 200mm of armor in the front. I'll fact check.

where did you get the 200mm armour?

the porsche tiger only had a maximum armour of 100mm

it had a different shape to the henschel tiger because the turret is mounted forwards and not centrally, similar to the t-34.

it was only when the chassies were converted to the ferdiand panzer that the 200mm thick armour was available.

the fuel consumption would have been better because e-engines were installed. but they did not have any effect on the speed.

here is a link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VK_4501_(P)

Posted: **Tue Dec 29, 2020 2:30 pm**

I got 200mm from multiple sites and videos
The turret is different by the storage compartment on the back of the turret and if you take a look at the tiger one and this the compartment is different.
And the turret is where it should be, towards the front
The engines where working to hard to move the dang thing because it had so much armor
They sometimes work so hard that the transmission would get so hot and go up in flames.

Here is a armor chart
Armour
front / side / back
Hull 204 / 82 / 82
Turret 120 / 82 / 82

Posted: **Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:44 pm**

ZakTheBuilder1 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 2:30 pm I got 200mm from multiple sites and videos
The turret is different by the storage compartment on the back of the turret and if you take a look at the tiger one and this the compartment is different.
And the turret is where it should be, towards the front
The engines where working to hard to move the dang thing because it had so much armor
They sometimes work so hard that the transmission would get so hot and go up in flames.

Here is a armor chart
Armour
front / side / back
Hull 204 / 82 / 82
Turret 120 / 82 / 82

the links to that please

Posted: **Wed Dec 30, 2020 1:32 pm**

War thunder wiki m8
Here's a quote
"The hull it uses is similar to the Henschel, it has the same 102 mm of front armour, and 82 mm of side and rear armour, only with different shapes. However, additional 102 mm armour plates are bolted to the front, making it a total of 204 mm of steel."

And a link
https://wiki.warthunder.com/Pz.Bef.Wg.VI_P

Posted: **Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:47 pm**

ZakTheBuilder1 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 30, 2020 1:32 pm War thunder wiki m8
Here's a quote
"The hull it uses is similar to the Henschel, it has the same 102 mm of front armour, and 82 mm of side and rear armour, only with different shapes. However, additional 102 mm armour plates are bolted to the front, making it a total of 204 mm of steel."

And a link
https://wiki.warthunder.com/Pz.Bef.Wg.VI_P

warthounder is a nice game and always has good information but you should not believe everything. often the data cannot stand up to wiki and other sites.

here a link that i more believe

http://www.panther-panzer.de/PanzerVI/VK4501P.htm

Posted: **Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:38 pm**

Its the internet
But I believe that they bolted extra armor on because if you look at it you see the huge bolts
Its not only warthunder
I played it on world of tanks and some other game idk.
It just needs to be a tiger p with Ferdinand armor

Now that I think about it how would this be different from the panzerjagers.

Posted: **Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:22 pm**

ZakTheBuilder1 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:38 pm Its the internet
But I believe that they bolted extra armor on because if you look at it you see the huge bolts
Its not only warthunder
I played it on world of tanks and some other game idk.
It just needs to be a tiger p with Ferdinand armor

Now that I think about it how would this be different from the panzerjagers.

it's always games that you cite as a source. where you can see that they are fictitiously doing things to make a special unit.

Show me sources that are not based on a game.

By slanting the armour slightly, the tank would get slightly better armour but be slower.

Posted: **Sat Jan 02, 2021 1:11 pm**

Tank encyclopedia

Posted: **Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:05 pm**

okay 200mm stagl on the gun
but only on a small area. we didn't give that to the russian tanks either. around the cannon area there were also some that had that thickness.

Posted: **Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:58 pm**

As long as it has the same armor as the tank destroyers I'll be happy mkay
All I can say is in the pictures I saw where there were two layers of steel are bolted together idk if it is 200mm but it would seem likely.

Posted: **Sat Jan 02, 2021 5:20 pm**

no it wound be like elefant because elefent is completly 200mm at the front and not only be the gun

so it would have the same stats like tiger 1 a different designe and slower

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