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Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm upgrade from panzer IV Ausf H +IMG
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:48 pm
by ZakTheBuilder1
History
In November 1944, the Krupp company presented several avant-projects aimed at upgrading the armament of tanks and tank destroyers in service. Among them there was a project for mounting the Panther's Schmalturm turret on the Pz IV Ausf. J.
Pictures:
https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/File:PzKp ... rawing.jpg
Re: Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm upgrade from panzer IV j
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:16 pm
by ZakTheBuilder1

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Re: Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm upgrade from panzer IV j
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:53 pm
by TrueSlav
The tank is way too 2D and the image is HUGE.
Re: Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm upgrade from panzer IV j
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:32 pm
by ZakTheBuilder1
I'm learning mkay
Re: Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm upgrade from panzer IV j
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:35 pm
by TrueSlav
No problem, just pointing out

Re: Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm upgrade from panzer IV j
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:09 am
by ZakTheBuilder1
Thanks
I tried again I want to see if its too big

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Re: Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm upgrade from panzer IV j
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:11 am
by ZakTheBuilder1
OK that is not what it looked like but idk
Re: Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm upgrade from panzer IV j
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 3:35 am
by Shark guy 35
It should be 32×32 and if possible using an existing unit as a template.
Re: Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm upgrade from panzer IV j
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:50 am
by ZakTheBuilder1
OK thanks I was trying to figure it out.
Re: Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm upgrade from panzer IV j
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:21 am
by DreJaDe
ZakTheBuilder1 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:50 am
OK thanks I was trying to figure it out.
It should be 64x64
If you want some guidance just use this panzer IV ingame
Re: Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm upgrade from panzer IV j
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:27 pm
by ZakTheBuilder1
Need to be working on IV J with the side skirts and turret skirt. I mean ausf H not j
Re: Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm upgrade from panzer IV j
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:26 pm
by ZakTheBuilder1
When they ran out of panther hulls

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Re: Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm upgrade from panzer IV j
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:03 pm
by ZakTheBuilder1
Can I get a in game pic of the panther and the tiger to make recovery vehicles and also a m4 Sherman to make correct models of the jumbos and the recovery vehicles
Re: Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm upgrade from panzer IV j
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:07 pm
by TrueSlav
ZakTheBuilder1 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:03 pm
Can I get a in game pic of the panther and the tiger to make recovery vehicles and also a m4 Sherman to make correct models of the jumbos and the recovery vehicles
making two fundamentally the same units with slightly changed stats is a bit silly. So maybe just the panther?
Re: Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm upgrade from panzer IV j
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:35 pm
by ZakTheBuilder1
Your calling upgrades silly also why not its historically accurate and I just want to draw.
It gives people a choice maybe they don't want a panther they rather have something different like this and people may like different stats like with this you get the same damage as a panther, three speed, less armor, and maybe two range.
The cost of the upgrade research would be two, the production cost would be five.
Re: Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm upgrade from panzer IV j
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:16 pm
by TrueSlav
ZakTheBuilder1 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:35 pm
Your calling upgrades silly also why not its historically accurate and I just want to draw.
It gives people a choice maybe they don't want a panther they rather have something different like this and people may like different stats like with this you get the same damage as a panther, three speed, less armor, and maybe two range.
The cost of the upgrade research would be two, the production cost would be five.
I'm not talking about the upgrade of the Panther but the recovery vehicles.
Re: Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm upgrade from panzer IV j
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:47 pm
by ZakTheBuilder1
The same thing applies here and I haven't even made the stats, there different.
The tiger would help larger vehicles and move slower
The panther would help medium to tankettes and other vehicles as would the tiger but the panther moves faster and has less armor and only help medium to tiny vehicles
The tiger would help more vehicles have more armor and move slower and will cost more as only one was ever made on the other hand the panther would only help a smaller portion, move faster and have less armor and cost less as over a thousand were made and used.
Anyways I just need the plain units of the panther and tiger and would like a Sherman as well
Re: Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm upgrade from panzer IV j
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:58 pm
by TrueSlav
ZakTheBuilder1 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:47 pm
The same thing applies here and I haven't even made the stats, there different.
The tiger would help larger vehicles and move slower
The panther would help medium to tankettes and other vehicles as would the tiger but the panther moves faster and has less armor and only help medium to tiny vehicles
The tiger would help more vehicles have more armor and move slower and will cost more as only one was ever made on the other hand the panther would only help a smaller portion, move faster and have less armor and cost less as over a thousand were made and used.
Anyways I just need the plain units of the panther and tiger and would like a Sherman as well
The problem was that the tiger wasn't able to help the heavier vehicles. Anyway, this is not the place to disscuss this, maybe we can create a new topic for this or move to the recovery vehicles topic?
Re: Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm upgrade from panzer IV j
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:04 pm
by ZakTheBuilder1
I made the topic in vehicles
Re: Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm upgrade from panzer IV j
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:59 pm
by ZakTheBuilder1
Re: Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm upgrade from panzer IV Ausf H
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 5:11 pm
by ZakTheBuilder1
Note
- This unit is just art and shouldn't be implemented.
Unless....
Anyway after many months improving my ability to use my fingers to draw, with the help of a friend I present the
Pz.Kpfw IV Ausf.H mit Schmallturm

- PzIV Schmalturm.png (1.87 KiB) Viewed 4288 times
Re: Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm upgrade from panzer IV Ausf H
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 5:29 pm
by ZakTheBuilder1
Note
- This Unit is not for implementation just conversation
Unlessssss...
And while I was doing that thing above
I remembered this
The Pz IV/V

- Pz IV-V .png (3 KiB) Viewed 4285 times
Re: Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm upgrade from panzer IV Ausf H
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 10:58 pm
by BrenoHenrique
ZakTheBuilder1 wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 5:11 pm
Note
- This unit is just art and shouldn't be implemented.
Unless....
Anyway after many months improving my ability to use my fingers to draw, with the help of a friend I present the
Pz.Kpfw IV Ausf.H mit Schmallturm
PzIV Schmalturm.png
uhhhh who would this friend be?
Re: Pz.Kpfw. IV Schmalturm upgrade from panzer IV Ausf H
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 3:06 am
by ZakTheBuilder1
My friend SAM

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(JK) #shoutout @Brenohenrique