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Pz.Sfl.IVc IMPLEMENTED
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:37 pm
by ZakTheBuilder1
A panzer IV with a 88 flak gun platform. When then platform is folded up it looks like a box with tracks and it can shoot the way its facing. When it folds out it can shoot planes and tanks in all directions
Re: Pz.Sfl.IVc
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:04 pm
by Veritum Nazarenvs
It can be too OP... but if maybe we give it a higher turn cost and a penalty of transition between AA to AT (like the flaks), it can work
Re: Pz.Sfl.IVc
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:35 pm
by ZakTheBuilder1
Yes its like a mobile flak 88 that was actually made. Only three prototypes were manufactured.
The Panzer Selbstfahrlafette IVc, the "Toaster,"
Re: Pz.Sfl.IVc
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:28 am
by HauptmannHorst
Great idea it would be a perfect addition between fixed aa and mobile "Wirbelwind"
But the gun needs to consume 1 turn to level up and down or its to OP!
Re: Pz.Sfl.IVc
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:24 pm
by ZakTheBuilder1
Yes that's what I was thinking BTW it has no armor so its not tanky
Re: Pz.Sfl.IVc
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:01 pm
by HauptmannHorst
Maybe only against common rifles some cover?
Re: Pz.Sfl.IVc
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:30 pm
by ZakTheBuilder1
Its up to you its just thin metal that is a platform for the gun to turn up and around
Re: Pz.Sfl.IVc
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:32 pm
by HauptmannHorst
Could someone please draw a prototype for this tank?
pls
Re: Pz.Sfl.IVc
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:34 pm
by ZakTheBuilder1
I wish I knew how and I know what it looks like folded and unfolded. Here's a link for the a top/side view
content://com.android.chrome.FileProvider/images/screenshot/1607358764272-1842085196.png
Re: Pz.Sfl.IVc
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:37 pm
by ZakTheBuilder1
https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/File:Anno ... fl_IVc.png
If the link doesn't work just look up flak panzer toaster lol
Re: Pz.Sfl.IVc
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:38 pm
by Jasondunkel
intressting tank
Re: Pz.Sfl.IVc
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:17 pm
by HauptmannHorst
I believe when the gun is oriented towards air targets then the the side and rear plates are folded to the outside.(?)
Re: Pz.Sfl.IVc
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:12 pm
by ZakTheBuilder1
Here is what it looks like unfolded
https://images.app.goo.gl/NFH9KAda6zdXEsH99
It was hard to find
Re: Pz.Sfl.IVc
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:46 pm
by HauptmannHorst
Looks good how about the stats?
Re: Pz.Sfl.IVc
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:51 pm
by Veritum Nazarenvs
I truly don't know... maybe something similar to the current german SPAA, with more attack power but less health overall.
Re: Pz.Sfl.IVc
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:52 pm
by Veritum Nazarenvs
1 more speed should be good i guess.
it should have really low armor too.
Re: Pz.Sfl.IVc
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:56 pm
by HauptmannHorst
Range of 2 on ground and 8 against Plazes?
Re: Pz.Sfl.IVc
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:57 pm
by HauptmannHorst
*planes
Re: Pz.Sfl.IVc
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:59 pm
by Veritum Nazarenvs
I agree with the plane range but i don't know with the tank range.
It can became like a anti-everything
Re: Pz.Sfl.IVc
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:03 pm
by ZakTheBuilder1
Yeah it is a flak round that explodes so it could do damage to buildings, the range for ground should be at least three because of it being used as a tank destroyer
Re: Pz.Sfl.IVc
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:26 pm
by HauptmannHorst
I agree because it wields a 8.8 and all Tanks with such a gun have a range of 2 and pak 43 as well
Re: Pz.Sfl.IVc
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:29 pm
by HauptmannHorst
But ground range of 3 or more so und be OP
Also you have to keep in mind that it need one turn to level the gun so its always unprotected from one area and has no armour
Re: Pz.Sfl.IVc
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:38 pm
by ZakTheBuilder1
And the fact that it snipes planes so why not tanks
Re: Pz.Sfl.IVc
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:20 pm
by Veritum Nazarenvs
But still is too much if we put that Range then we will need to nerf other thing to make some balance.
Re: Pz.Sfl.IVc
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 10:21 pm
by Veritum Nazarenvs
Imagine facing a couple of those things in a early game.
Re: Pz.Sfl.IVc
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:09 pm
by ZakTheBuilder1
Well I think they should be fair and also you get it when u reach tier two
Re: Pz.Sfl.IVc
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 11:17 pm
by ZakTheBuilder1
You get it in tier two so its not early game and two range for ground targets
Eight maybe seven range for air targets
4 turn cost
3 speed
Same damage a flak 88
Paper thin armor
Turn cost to transform from AA to AT
It seems bout right
Re: Pz.Sfl.IVc
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:45 pm
by HauptmannHorst
Sounds good
Re: Pz.Sfl.IVc
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:46 pm
by HauptmannHorst
Can anybody draw a prototype I'm horrible at painting
Re: Pz.Sfl.IVc
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:17 pm
by HauptmannHorst
Is somebody on it? (No pressure)
