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Golden Warrior

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:19 am
by Hyuhjhih
Golden Warrior
A title awarded to the most brave , experienced and successful arms men who fought bravely and gave victorious position to the kingdom in a few wars. A rank higher than the military captain.
The Golden Warrior as stated in legends, is considered immortal among the army. And can only be defeated by a common citizen facing death at anytime.
There was only one Golden Warrior among each dynasties. It is believed that after the death of a Golden Warrior, there can be another one born only after a 100 years.

Re: Golden Warrior

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:22 am
by Hyuhjhih
MY IDEA
A Warrior superior in all fights among melee ie, has great bonus against infantry, mounted, ranged, sieges. High enough armour that cant be penetrated by any other unit.
Slow movement, and can be 2shot killed by any unit under peasant category.

Re: Golden Warrior

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:32 am
by Morningwarrior
This is a map editor unit?

Re: Golden Warrior

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:33 am
by Hyuhjhih
Cost 10
Hp 40
Armour 20/20
Speed 0 ability move +1 speed last 1 cd 1
Att 15
Rng melee
Trained at TC
Sight 2
Heal bonus x0 not healable.
No blacksmith upgrades
Act 1
Conversion not convertible
Unique, heavy foot melee, anti infantry, anti mounted, anti ranged
Bonuses
100% melee
100% ranged
33% ranged
-100% buildings
Seems op? Not really. He can barely move with heaviest armour in the battle realm. And can be 2 shoted by any peasant.

Re: Golden Warrior

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:34 am
by Morningwarrior
Ok this can be good unit,but,do now endru will accept

Re: Golden Warrior

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:36 am
by Hyuhjhih
Most probably. The stats may seems op. But cost 10 and 2 shot by a peasant. And speed 0 with +1 speed cd 1.

Re: Golden Warrior

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:37 am
by Hyuhjhih
@Endru1241

Re: Golden Warrior

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:52 am
by Badnorth
What is this? This Golden warrior can still go in wagons or receive speed effects to march faster, plus it is a very good town or Viking ship defender. If this is a Fun unit or a Map editor unit, then it is ok for me. 20/20 armor is no good tho, only gunpowder can do serious damage against it.

Re: Golden Warrior

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:11 am
by Endru1241
Fits as fun unit.
Would have to be cheaper then though.

As regular one - the weakness of peasant is quite fantasy-like.
Would have to be balanced without it somehow.

Bonuses doesn't really make sense too, e.g. there is no way to make negative bonus.
Rng melee is quite unclear - you mean aoe? Or 2 range attack like pikes?

Btw. Gunpowder units would be able to damage it either - only flailman as it gets ignore armor spec.

Re: Golden Warrior

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:47 am
by Badnorth
Endru1241 wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:11 am Btw. Gunpowder units would be able to damage it either - only flailman as it gets ignore armor spec.
Would? Did you mean wouldn't? Because u said only flailman can damage it. But, if so. Then how can hangoneer damage a heavily armoured hoplite?

Re: Golden Warrior

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:52 am
by Hyuhjhih
QuadrupoleStrat wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:52 am What is this? This Golden warrior can still go in wagons or receive speed effects to march faster, plus it is a very good town or Viking ship defender. If this is a Fun unit or a Map editor unit, then it is ok for me. 20/20 armor is no good tho, only gunpowder can do serious damage against it.
Maybe restrict carrying and speed buff.
Maybe hp30 cause if it went 20, it got stat matchingcoolguy rather slow.
Endru1241 wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:11 am Fits as fun unit.
Would have to be cheaper then though.

As regular one - the weakness of peasant is quite fantasy-like.
Would have to be balanced without it somehow.

Bonuses doesn't really make sense too, e.g. there is no way to make negative bonus.
Rng melee is quite unclear - you mean aoe? Or 2 range attack like pikes?

Btw. Gunpowder units would be able to damage it either - only flailman as it gets ignore armor spec.
Well coolguy can be vulnerable to scouts and labours
And yeah the part was pretty fantasy in description. But i thought of peasants as a match for the "common citizen ". Either way peasants are quite under used in game.
Rng melee meant 1 without aoe, i just selected a suggestion from keyboard.
I thought of making it a regular unique unit.

Re: Golden Warrior

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:54 am
by Hyuhjhih
QuadrupoleStrat wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:47 am
Endru1241 wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:11 am Btw. Gunpowder units would be able to damage it either - only flailman as it gets ignore armor spec.
Would? Did you mean wouldn't? Because u said only flailman can damage it. But, if so. Then how can hangoneer damage a heavily armoured hoplite?
Handgonneer 11 and +4 on heavy. Thus it cause 15-8 nearly 7 damage. But with 20 armour, it get only -1 damage

Re: Golden Warrior

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:37 am
by Hyuhjhih
Modified from endru's version of spartan hoplite ref viewtopic.php?f=229&t=7369#p91213
Golden Warrior

Re: Golden Warrior

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:37 am
by Hyuhjhih
Reworked

Re: Golden Warrior

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:16 am
by Badnorth
Hyuhjhih wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:54 am
QuadrupoleStrat wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:47 am
Endru1241 wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:11 am Btw. Gunpowder units would be able to damage it either - only flailman as it gets ignore armor spec.
Would? Did you mean wouldn't? Because u said only flailman can damage it. But, if so. Then how can hangoneer damage a heavily armoured hoplite?
Handgonneer 11 and +4 on heavy. Thus it cause 15-8 nearly 7 damage. But with 20 armour, it get only -1 damage
Mm, I see.

Re: Golden Warrior

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:38 pm
by phoenixffyrnig
Hyuhjhih wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:19 am And can only be defeated by a common citizen facing death at anytime.
Hyu, this interests me - can you give some more information please, what exactly do you mean? Is it some sort of fate / prophecy thing? And what is facing death at any time, is that a condemned prisoner, or someone who constantly faces risk to life.

Cheers :)

Re: Golden Warrior

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:02 pm
by Hyuhjhih
From the reference i read, mongol, mughal, kalakeya, marik, greek reigns, Egyptian etc , the golden warriors existed in different names. And for the surprise, they were all killed by common people as predicted. The were throne away from title due to their dishonest behavior and was died revenge from people of the regions ( under slavery)they had captured for their nation. In the ref there were 17 GW but i can't recollect their name. Among them was TITAN of Atlanta and the largest moon of saturn ( the second largest in solar system) is named after him due to the might he represented.( TITAN was also a ref to the name if brother of greek god kronos, and it also got aref of undefeatable army The Titans)

Re: Golden Warrior

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:57 pm
by Morningwarrior
Hyuhjhih wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:02 pm From the reference i read, mongol, mughal, kalakeya, marik, greek reigns, Egyptian etc , the golden warriors existed in different names. And for the surprise, they were all killed by common people as predicted. The were throne away from title due to their dishonest behavior and was died revenge from people of the regions ( under slavery)they had captured for their nation. In the ref there were 17 GW but i can't recollect their name. Among them was TITAN of Atlanta and the largest moon of saturn ( the second largest in solar system) is named after him due to the might he represented.( TITAN was also a ref to the name if brother of greek god kronos, and it also got aref of undefeatable army The Titans)
The name is looking similar to me.

Re: Golden Warrior

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:07 pm
by Morningwarrior
Endru1241 wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:11 am Fits as fun unit.
Would have to be cheaper then though.

As regular one - the weakness of peasant is quite fantasy-like.
Would have to be balanced without it somehow.

Bonuses doesn't really make sense too, e.g. there is no way to make negative bonus.
Rng melee is quite unclear - you mean aoe? Or 2 range attack like pikes?

Btw. Gunpowder units would be able to damage it either - only flailman as it gets ignore armor spec.
Hey endru i do want to be boring, but the next update we can have high expectations?

Re: Golden Warrior

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:10 pm
by Endru1241
Not for this one.

I have huge list of ready units that takes precedence.

Re: Golden Warrior

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:12 am
by Hyuhjhih
Hyuhjhih wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:52 am
QuadrupoleStrat wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:52 am What is this? This Golden warrior can still go in wagons or receive speed effects to march faster, plus it is a very good town or Viking ship defender. If this is a Fun unit or a Map editor unit, then it is ok for me. 20/20 armor is no good tho, only gunpowder can do serious damage against it.
Maybe restrict carrying and speed buff.
Maybe hp30 cause if it went 20, it got stat matchingcoolguy rather slow.
Endru1241 wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:11 am Fits as fun unit.
Would have to be cheaper then though.

As regular one - the weakness of peasant is quite fantasy-like.
Would have to be balanced without it somehow.

Bonuses doesn't really make sense too, e.g. there is no way to make negative bonus.
Rng melee is quite unclear - you mean aoe? Or 2 range attack like pikes?

Btw. Gunpowder units would be able to damage it either - only flailman as it gets ignore armor spec.
Well coolguy can be vulnerable to scouts and labours
And yeah the part was pretty fantasy in description. But i thought of peasants as a match for the "common citizen ". Either way peasants are quite under used in game.
Rng melee meant 1 without aoe, i just selected a suggestion from keyboard.
I thought of making it a regular unique unit.
Endru1241 wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:10 pm Not for this one.

I have huge list of ready units that takes precedence.
😬😰

Re: Golden Warrior

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:48 pm
by Shark guy 35
Hyuhjhih wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:37 amReworked
It looks like he is carrying a large microphone.

Re: Golden Warrior

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:52 pm
by Hyuhjhih
Shark guy 35 wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:48 pm
Hyuhjhih wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:37 amReworked
It looks like he is carrying a large microphone.
:shock: does it look like mic to you.Really🥶

Re: Golden Warrior

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:18 am
by Morningwarrior
Endru1241 wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:10 pm Not for this one.

I have huge list of ready units that takes precedence.
Looks you have much job and units to review.